Student | London 2018

“What was really inspiring was seeing the change start to take place in the other students.

Hi 4WN world 🌎 . If you are considering doing a 4WN, hopefully this will help you make the right decision. It’s my experience this past month (Sep-Oct) in London. Enjoy!

It’s hard to know where to start. How do you put into words one of the most deep and real emotional experiences of your life? How do you communicate the feelings that come with growth and the “ultimate state of evolution”? All I can really do here is record my own experience, my own change, my own results, and my own 4 Week Natural. That really summarises what is the best part of this program: it’s tailored to you and your own character. I was never treated as just some other student – none of us were. It wasn’t a “one size fits all” way of thinking. We were treated as real people, with very real expectations and very real compassion, and that’s what brought out our best. And who better to bring out the best in you, hold you accountable, and teach you everything you need to know about Game, but the best in the world himself: Alex.

From the beginning we were on a mission – six of us, all from different walks of life. We each wanted change, and we each wanted the answers to so many questions. When Alex first greeted us, he had a gleam in his eye; and by the end of the program I could see something similar in each of my fellow students. He told us what to expect, both emotionally and physically, and he told us what he expected from us. The atmosphere was electric.

After the introduction it was straight to business – our first night out. From the first venue, Alex was straight on it: “I can see what level everyone is at, just by watching them in set now…”. He gave me such useful feedback from the get go. He encouraged me not to camp too long on one particular group, and before I knew it I had a good thing going with an attractive blonde at the bar. Our team already had the attention of most of the girls at the first venue; we were the guys to meet. Alex told me to “float” out with my girl, and I walked her out when the venue closed (I would later learn that this is one of the most crucial parts of the Game – the front door rule).

The first weekend was incredible fun. I opened more “sets” than I could count, and learnt so much that my brain literally hurt. It was brilliant. The de-briefs following each session were beyond next level and beyond what we could have ever expected. Alex explained our interactions and the psychology at play (both in us and the women we met) to incredible depth and high level. From the beginning it opened up a new way of thinking, and more importantly a much healthier understanding of ourselves and of women, including what they desire and how they feel. He was patient and answered all of our questions. Some of what he told us was difficult to hear because it demanded real change within us, and letting go of parts of our own way of thinking, but that’s why we chose to do it – not for cheap results but for authentic internal change, understanding and freedom. What really hit home was how passionate Alex was, regardless of if he was tired or had had no sleep, everyday he was always on point. He also gave us so so many bonus sessions (both day game and night game), bonus infield breakdown, and bonus de-briefs. He was so invested in our success. It was awesome.

The best part was doing it with the other guys. Our stories, our moxie, and our results created an amazing and competitive group dynamic. It‘s called the “honeymoon period” in the beginning, because everyone is so positive and empowered. In terms of results… well… let’s just say every time we met up everyone had an adventure to tell – even after the bonus sessions. The days of leaving the club alone were a thing of the past (or at least became a rarity). In terms of daygame, I had three instadates and a number on the first weekend from only four approaches. This became the normal for all of us. Everyday I would wake up, look at my phone, and it would be either full of messages from girls I had approached, or unbelievable stories posted on the group chat from the night out before. It was insanity.

As the program progressed everyone had more and more success, but what was really inspiring was seeing the change start to take place in the other students. One of the guys who had initially come across as a very serious person, became brighter in the face and more expressive, and to a different student, I remember saying “Dude you look really happy and relaxed..” “I know.. it’s like Alex has pulled the plug on a lot of the stuff I had in my head before.. now there are no feels good”. The effect Alex was having on us, and that we were having on each other, was very real. I can’t quite describe the feeling of knowing that your coach and fellow students are watching you in set, fighting off chodes in the club, telling you what to do next, pushing you beyond your comfort zone. When we got results and demonstrated the principles of Natural Game, Alex would be ecstatic – it was a powerful thing. He taught us proper screening, how to structure the night, full range of expression, front door rule, the list goes on. Our group was solid; most of us already had a lot of experience from the beginning, which meant that we each learnt so much from one another, as well as our coach.

Although I was leaving with new people almost every night (one night I actually front doored a girl and her entire Spanish family – FDR for the win 💪 ), I still couldn’t yet say “a gentleman never remembers”…but that all changed for me in the final two weeks. I don’t have enough words here to describe what happened, but it ultimately pushed me through my comfort threshold once and for all. By the second day of weekend 3, I came to Alex and the rest of the group for our afternoon debrief. As an emotional wreck (I had had about 7 hours sleep over the past 3 days solid), I recounted to Alex and the guys what had happened to me the night before. A 5 star girl (Russian), had pulled ME from outside the local bar, and walked me with her friends to the McDonalds down the street. She tested me and tested me and tested me.. constantly. All I did was hold my value, and eat my McFlurry. By ‪4am‬ it was just us left on the street.. and soon an Uber driver. A gentleman never remembers what happened next… and a gentleman never remembers what had happened the night previous, or the night previous to that, or the previous weekend either. It was the end of my struggles to evolve past my self doubts and fears with women. The events of that week was the ultimate proof to myself that there is no reason why I am not enough. Never again am I allowed to ask myself “am I attractive?” That dialogue no longer exists in my brain. After I recounted the story, Alex shook my hand, and awarded me the first polo of 4WN London 2018.

The learning and growth did not end there. At my halftime talk with Alex, he helped me understand and accept how I express myself, and how I contribute to other people, both men and women. I said “now that I have the polo… and after all that has happened this week.. I now feel like I have nothing left to prove”. He paused.. “be careful with that statement… because what you have just said is inherently ‘play to not lose’”. It helped me realise that in the Game, and in life, I have EVERYTHING to prove. There’s always more adventures to be had, more people to meet, more girls to fight for, more life experiences to enjoy – and THAT is truly ‘play to win’.

To top it off, Alex also took us out to take Tinder photos with his Hasselblad professional camera (this photo shoot itself is worth 2K.. but he gave it us for free as part of the program). We also had the chance to meet the other 4WN alumni in London, which was a great opportunity to network.

It was mega to have Luca join us in our final week. I am lucky to have known Luca from back in the day, and if you ever have a chance to work with him – then do. His charisma and genuine friendliness, is inspiring to be around, and I feel like he effortlessly brings out the best in those around him. He helped me understand a lot of what I was going through and helped me process the experience I was having on the program, which was an important part of the learning process for me.

At the end of the program we all celebrated together; no longer just students but steadfast friends. Each of us had earned our polo, and each of us had earned each others’ respect. It was so sad when the time came for Alex to leave, and I could have sworn I saw a tear in his eye when he did 😉. After he had left, we each shared a cigar, and each of us shared to the group what we respected about each other individually. It was my favourite moment of the program. I didn’t know these guys 4 weeks previous.. but now I felt like I had known them for years. They think like me, they share the same values that I do, and they are good people.

How has the 4WN changed my life? The two biggest takeaways for me was that there really is no reason why I’m not enough, which I learnt from the experiences and adventures. The second is my motivation to bring out the best of the girl when I meet her. I want to find out who she is – her positive emotions, her negative emotions, her sexuality, her heart’s desire, how she likes to express herself, all that good stuff. I’m inspired to approach by her beauty, elegance and expression, but I’m motivated to approach to find out what we can create and the best person I can bring out of her. That’s what sparks the gleam in my eye, and that is my role as a man. There are no more rules, and no more Game conditioning, no more social conditioning fogging it up. I simply ask myself “how can I make this easy for her, and how can I make this easy for me?” Simples.

Alex I can’t thank you enough man. You changed the Game for us all, and the 4WNLondon2018 salutes you. 
4 times rule FTW




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Alex is the most experienced dating coach in the world

I brought Alex into Real Social Dynamics because I wanted to learn from him... Alexander is one of the best in the game that has ever done it.

RSD Tyler

4 Week Natural Curriculum

Night Game

  • Target selection: how to detect indications of interest
  • Incidental approaches: “It just happened”
  • Re-approach repeatedly to build familiarity without being needy
  • Create many leads, then double down on the best one
  • Establish physical comfort
  • Get accepted by her friends
  • Give her space to game you back
  • Escalate correctly and at the right time
  • Leave the venue with the girl smoothly without having to actively “pull”

Day  Game

  • How to approach without putting pressure on the girl
  • Get the girl to invite you to continue the interaction
  • The proper balance between talking about yourself and learning about her
  • How to get the girl talking about herself without asking lots of questions
  • Prevent defensiveness
  • Make her wonder what happens next
  • How to make the number solid

Inner  Game

  • Take control of your (lack of) motivation towards women
  • 33 day internalization that You Are Enough
  • Eliminate approach and social anxiety
  • Learn to see yourself as a leader to those you’re attracted to
  • Learn to enjoy rejection because you no longer see it as rejection at all
  • Liberate yourself to act freely in any situation
  • Face your darkest fears and biggest limitations under Alex’s guidance to reach resolution
  • Never be needy: internalize freedom from outcome
  • Reach relaxed arousal: state control and flow
  • Experience the enlightenment: acceptance of the self, the environment, and female psychology

Social Skills Masterclass

  • Dynamic openers
  • Maintain confident posture and body language
  • Vocal coaching
  • Show empathy by giving people an out
  • Screen quickly and effectively for logistics and availability
  • Validate other’s egos
  • Express a full range of emotions
  • Learn to talk infinitely
  • Win frame battles
  • Overcome initial rejection
  • Attractive self-amusement
  • Win-win game: Achieve social success while building up everyone around you

Building Attraction

  • Establish an attractive frame immediately
  • Interact with her physically
  • Utilize Alex’s arsenal of verbal lines that wor
  • Create deliberate pauses
  • Keep her attention
  • Get girls qualifying themselves
  • Persist attractively
  • Be deliberately illogical
  • Give deep personality compliments
  • Create a fear of loss
  • Tailor your vibe to each individual girl
  • Master women’s shit tests
  • Build and maintain tension and arousal

Text Game & Online Game

  • Pick the right first photo to make her read more
  • Incorporate subsequent photos that check all the boxes
  • Write an engaging profile
  • Dating app photoshoot
  • Build your perceived value through Instagram
  • Keep her hooked over time
  • How to propose dates in a way where “no” doesn’t equal rejection

33 Days Live Pick Up Coaching Immersion

True Transformation

“I’ve done boot camps before, but I find myself falling back to old habits when going home”

Most dating coaches offer 3 day boot camps. Some offer 7 day immersions. But you know there is no such thing as a magic pick up line or technique. You didn’t come here for that. You’re here to become a better version of yourself – permanent and lasting transformation.

Work Exclusively with Alex, not an Assistant Coach

Alex will be your coach at every single session.

Most companies place you with an assistant coach for some of your infield sessions. Even though many guys want to be Alex’s assistant coaches, Alex doesn’t take them on because he knows you’re here to work with him directly.

24/7 Coaching Access + 16 Infield Sessions

You will have 8 day game, 8 night game, and 8 bonus (inner game, tinder game, etc) sessions evenly spread out over the duration of 4 weeks. That’s the equivalent of 2.5 bootcamps!

In addition, you will be able to contact Alex 24/7 throughout the entire program. Alex will never be far away.

Crush First Impression

Alex will provide an ongoing fashion consultation to help you build your particular style and make sure you’re making a great first impression. You’ll go over hair, attire, grooming, and general visual aesthetics to perfect your look.

In addition, you will get an outlined health, workout, and nutrition game plan customized to you and designed to help you attain the look that you’d like to be able to achieve with your physique.

Become Your Strongest Self

It’s very hard to see at yourself from the outside the way others do. With experience, Alex has become extremely good at pinpointing the essence of your personality and how it affects how others perceive you. Blindspots, sticking points – Alex will tell you exactly what you need to do to make people perceive you as an attractive leader, and he’ll walk you through every step of building your new habits.

Convert Dates to Lovers

Say you meet a girl during the program. It might take a few days just to set up the date. With a bootcamp, your coach would already be long gone! But Alex will be there to help you every step of the way.

He’ll advise you on the best locations to go, what to do during the date and be right on the other side of the phone for any help you need DURING the date!

Win at Tinder

You will receive a full break down of your online dating accounts from improving your pictures to learning what to say. You will see real examples from Alex, see his personal accounts and learn how to get the same level of results INSTANTLY!


Besides coaching, Alex is also a professional photographer ( He’ll take professional-level pictures of you to take your Tinder profile to the next level.

Get Girls on Dates

Do girls often seem warm in person, but then never respond after giving you their contact info?

Alex will teach you how to use text game and social media to make girls actually become MORE interested over time.

Achieve Your Life Goals

Four 1 on 1 sessions with Alex talking about fears, past experiences, hopes, and dreams.

Friends for Life

After spending 4 weeks with your fellow students and going out together again and again, you’ll have friends for life who are cool and socially experienced. The perfect wingmen!

Learn from the Best Infield Videos

Access to the best infield video library in the world. These are videos that are too sensitive to be shown on the internet.

Become Part of the Tribe

Upon graduating from your program, you will be part of the 4 Week Natural Community. You will receive a custom-embroidered polo shirt, will be connected with the network of previous 4wN graduates around the world whom you can wing with, and will be welcome to meet up with Alex and the crew on any future 4wN program to catch up with Alex and participate in the shenanigans.





11 day skillset training



11 day inner game mastery



11 day emotional transformation



Phone, text & date coaching



Exclusive Infield pickup video content



Dating app photoshoot x 3



Fashion and style makeover



4 x 1 Hour Counselling Sesisons



Access to Future 4 Week Natural Programs for free as Guest Participant





$3,997 USD**

*Based on Derek RSD bootcamp 2019 ($3,300 for 3 days). 4wN takes place over 33 days and 5 weekends.

**NOTE: The price of the 4 Week Natural will go up to $4,197 on January 1, 2021

Payment Plans

Payment plans are available. Since Alex appreciates the challenges of being a young man, he wants the program to be available and affordable.

The structure we commonly use is that you place the normal 25% deposit, pay 25% to start program, 25% 4 weeks later, and the final 25% 4 weeks after that.

HOWEVER, we are very selective about who to accept for a payment plan. We must be confident that you will honor your commitment to pay and that you will truly benefit from the program. To apply, please fill out the form below.

    Frequently Asked Questions

    I have a day job, would 4 Week Natural work with my schedule?

    4wN is the only program in the world designed to be taken alongside a 9-5 career. It’s made to leave you with habits that will sustainable as opposed to giving you a crazy 3-day experience that will never transfer into your real life.

    Alex will call you and assess your working hours and your other commitments, then structure your program to fit your schedule.

    Of course, when we teach at vacation destinations such as Hvar and Thailand those are an exception. However, even there many students work remotely during the program.

    Is 4wN a good fit for beginners?

    4 Week Natural is designed to teach you to socialize with anyone, anywhere. Alex has coached every type of student so 4wN is effective both for beginners who are socially well adjusted as well as those who are socially maladjusted. If you’re a complete beginner who feels anxiety at the thought of approaching and talking to a stranger, let alone a beautiful girl, 4wN will open up a new world of connections for you.

    Is 4wN a good fit for advanced students?

    If you’ve already made progress in the social arena, congratulations! Alex will very quickly assess your current level, and if you’re ready to absorb more advanced concepts he will jump you ahead to those. Whether you’ve come to this site because you’ve hit a plateau or because you’re just looking to fix the small mistakes that may be costing you results, learning from such an experienced coach is a very effective way to reach your true potential.

    What is the schedule of the program like?

    You’ll usually have 2 day game sessions and 2 night game sessions per week, as well as dedicated curriculum sessions. There will also be a 2 day recess about half-way through the program to allow you to relax, experiment on your own, or just spend time with your new wingmen from the program.

    The exact dates and times are very flexible and will scheduled around your availability, commitments, and any unforeseen circumstances you run into.

    You’ll also be able to request a session balance tiled more towards day game or night game if you prefer one over the other.

    What are the usual times for coaching sessions?​

    • Day game: ~4-8
    • Curriculum: ~6-10
    • Night game: ~10:30-3

    Is Alex going to be there for every session?

    Yes. Alex knows you’re here to work specifically with a world leading coach and not an assistant coach. He doesn’t work with any assistant coaches.

    What is the infield student to instructor ratio?​

    At most 3:1. Other companies in the industry go as high as 15:1.

    All students are welcome to join every session to absorb by spectating, but the 3 in-session students get Alex’s primary attention.

    What if I have a date during one of the scheduled coaching sessions?​

    Take the date as a priority. Alex will reschedule your coaching session.

    What happens if I get sick during the program?

    Students frequently get the common flu and we anticipate that. The program schedule is very flexible and we simply reschedule your sessions accordingly.

    What happens after I complete the 4wN?​

    4wN is designed to be the last pickup program you’ll ever take or need. At the same, after completing your program you will always be welcome to join us on subsequent programs to wing with Alex and the students infield. May of our graduates join us later on for adventures, good times, to catch up, and to re-experience the glory that is the 4wN.

    Why is the program so cheap?​

    Because we don’t want to price out young ambitious men who can really benefit from this program.

    The reason we can offer this cheap price is because 4wN has a strong and simple coaching structure with a direct coach-student connection. In addition, since we stay in the same city for 30 days, our travel and accommodation expenses are low.

    Do we book our own housing?

    Yes. This helps keep the program tuition inexpensive, and we can focus directly on teaching you rather than managing accommodations.

    Some students opt for very humble accommodations while others opt for luxurious accommodations.

    Do you have any tips regarding accommodations?

    Yes. This helps keep the program tuition inexpensive, and we can focus directly on teaching you rather than managing accommodations.

    Some students opt for very humble accommodations while others opt for luxurious accommodations.

    What happens once I place my deposit?

    You’ll receive an email instructing you to connect directly with Alex and with the 4wN Facebook group for your program to allow you to organize your experience.

    Is there a money back guarantee?

    At the conclusion of the program, under the condition that you participated in full, you may ask Alex for a complete refund. You must ask in person on the last day of the program.

    Can I get my deposit back?

    Yes, if you meet both of these conditions:

    1. Notice is given to us at the latest 45 days before the start date of the program you signed.
    2. When you contact us, it is still within 6 months since your deposit transaction date.

    Are payment plans available?

    How much money will I need to live during that month?

    The cost of living greatly varies by city. You can check the price of accommodations on sites like Airbnb. Besides accommodations, living can be pretty cheap if you eat exclusively at grocery stores. In addition, Alex will ensure all venues you go to will be cheap or free.

    How much money will I need for the fashion makeover?

    No money is required. It’s at your discretion how much you want to invest to implement the advice Alex will give you. However, the recommendations are usually about 50-150 USD.

    How many applicants are allowed per city?

    We allow up to a maximum of 9 applicants per city so that Alex can focus individually on each student, and give you the attention that you deserve.

    This also gives us the chance to divide everyone into “crews” of 3 people based on lifestyle and demographics that can team up and work with each other through the program and beyond.

    What's your policy regarding alcohol during the program?

    Take it easy on the alcohol during your program. Alcohol is not forbidden, but it’s also not encouraged. Alex will teach you to socialize in a non-inhibited without Alcohol. If he feels you’re getting carried away with alcohol, Alex will point it out to you and will get you back on track.

    Is it true that we get a custom-embroidered Ralph Lauren polo shirt for completing the program?

    Yes! It’s true, and you can even earn your polo shirt before the end of the program for enthusiastic participation.

    Will my privacy and images be secure and protected during my 4wN experience?

    4wN uses extensive media to share the experience online, but all students’ names and images will be censured and strictly protected.

    Is it true that we get iPads to watch Alex's infield hotseat during the 4wN program?

    Yes. Alex has a fleet of iPads with all of his uncensored infield video for you to watch and learn from at your discretion during the program. These iPads contain all of Alex’s infield video since the beginning of time which can’t be found anywhere online. Since they’re uncensored, these videos are extremely sensitive.

    What if I have an existing psychological or behavioral condition?

    In rare cases, we do have students with conditions. Be sure to discuss any conditions that may impact your learning experience in depth with Alex before your program start date. Alex is trained as a psychologist to deal with a wide range of psychological or behavioral conditions.

    Who are you looking to join this program?

    Our ideal applicant is someone who’s a high-achiever, self-respecting, willing to invest in themselves, and wants to master every part of their life.

    Are there anything I should do to prepare for the program?

    Yes. Once you place your deposit, you get a 75% discount on our online learning resources. Alex created 3 programs designed to complement the 4 week natural: once each about night game, day game, and inner game. You will be referred to them upon placing your deposit.

    *Program Results may differ from person to person.

    Further questions? Request a call to discuss 4 Week Natural

    Live coaching is a very personal experience. Alex is committed to providing you the best experience, so if you have any special needs, concerns, focus, or requests, please arrange a call with Alex.

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      PLACING A DEPOSIT DOES NOT GUARANTEE ACCEPTANCE INTO THE PROGRAM. If, after speaking with you, we consider you to be unable to complete the program, will not fit into the culture of the program, or might diminish the experience of other students, your deposit or payment will be refunded directly to your account with no charges incurred. If you are not accepted into the 4 week natural you apply for, we will advise you how you can make a successful application in the future.

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